Today’s more of a serious post, and the closest I can get to a “dating disaster” post, because the time I showed up to a date covered in mud-and-possibly-dog-poop was actually really fun. If you’d like to know how I came up with my rather extensive list of dealbreakers, read on!
If you’ve been here long enough, you may have inferred from the beginning-ish of this post and confession #5 that my first relationship probably shouldn’t ever have happened.
It was a combination of being young and stupid (yay high school), coupled with the fact that I really shouldn’t have thought that I could “grow to like someone.”
Translation: Don’t date someone just because they’re really nice to you and you think there’s a chance that you could maybe start liking them.
(I was rebounding at the time, and I didn’t know it. I learned that term later.)
I’ve since become a great fan of turning negative experiences into “learning experiences.”
Things I now keep in mind to put things into perspective:
- What do you know now that you didn’t know then?
- If you’re ever in a situation like that again, how are you going to respond?
I learned a lot. (More specifically, it’s how I figured out my entire “do-not-want” list for a relationship.) It sounds really harsh, but sometimes, the truth hurts. We’ve since made peace with each other and he’ll never read this, so we are good to go!
(For the record, I’m obviously talking about this guy as I knew him back then–it’s definitely possible that he’s changed, but this is [unfortunately] how he came across back then, once we’d started dating.)
Aside from the obvious (don’t be a serial killer, a psychopath, and/or a controlling, possessive, misogynistic and/or inconsiderate selfish prick)…
There is little in this world that is less attractive to me than a person with no passion in/for life.
I’m attracted to people with ambition and passion. He had none. He’d also get annoyed but would pretend not to be upset when I wanted to talk to and/or hang out with my friends without him. This is precisely the type of nonsense that I refuse to ever have to put up with again.
I know in movies, dudes often say things like, “I can’t live without you,” and it’s supposed to be romantic, but I kid you not, hearing that sends chills down my spine. If you have zero drive to accomplish anything and I am your entire life, I have no capacity to deal with that.
You are not responsible for the decisions that someone else makes.
When I realized early on that we were better off as friends/I shouldn’t be in a relationship (because I felt like I was still hung up on someone else), he told me he would kill himself if I left him.
How’s that for a red flag? I don’t think I need to state that that’s a horrible way to make someone stay.
What’s sad is that it actually worked.
I still cared about him as a friend and a person, and I didn’t want to be responsible for a possible suicide. (What if he wasn’t bluffing?)
When your “relationship” is held together by guilt and fear, it’s pretty safe to say that there is nothing left (if there ever was anything to begin with). Moreover, why would you even want them to stay if you know they don’t actually want to be there?
At the time, I had no idea what to do. I didn’t tell anyone what was going on because I’m a champion bottler/secret-keeper (I don’t think anyone even realized we’d been having problems until long after we’d finally broken up).
So my solution was to dead-fish my personality to the point that he’d get so, so bored of my lackluster behavior that he’d have no choice but to break up with me instead.
Genius plan, am I right?!
…It took 6 months.
I literally cried tears of relief when I was finally set free.
Arguments and disagreements may be inevitable, but make sure you fight fair.
(I say “may be” because in my second relationship, there was never anything to fight about and that was awesome. The only “argument” we ever had was over the fact that I was super grumpy because I reallyyy didn’t feel like playing a certain video game one evening.)
I’m sure this is at least somewhat just the way I am, but I think part of why I have such a hard time talking about how I feel stems from the fact that every time I tried to bring something up, my words would get twisted to mean something completely different. That “pretending not to be upset” when he was actually upset would always come and rear its ugly head during said arguments.
I felt like I was walking on eggshells, worried that anything I said would get twisted and used against me later, so after a while, I just gave up and stopped trying to communicate. (Part of the dead fish persona I adopted.)
Do. Not. Want. – Druggies/Alcoholics/Smokers
These have always been on my do-not-want list, so he wasn’t responsible for these being on my list…but super-fun times included receiving a drunk phone call at 3 a.m. from him telling me to meet with him (which I ignored), followed by a subsequent call from not one, but two of our closest friends (…hooray for having mutual friends) asking if I could please come help cart him back to his house because said ex was completely wasted, and they couldn’t get him to move.
(Would I take this, or being a cat lady? How is that even a question?)
Twas a riveting experience–one that people who knew both of us found almost implausible because that type of behavior seemed so uncharacteristic of him. (The “almost” is because they knew that I am honest to a fault, and all the seemingly random unexplained behavior finally started piecing together.) I guess we were both very talented at hiding.
I was completely on strike from relationships for a couple years after that, but at least I have a lot of takeaway points! When you’re already certain of all the things you don’t want in a relationship, it makes recognizing what you do want a whole lot easier. :]
- Do you have a tendency to hide your problems?
- What have you learned from a bad relationship/experience?
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One: you are an incredibly strong person to hold on to a relationship with a guy who threatened to kill himself if you left him for 6 MONTHS! I don’t fault you for it, it just shows you cared and didn’t want anything to happen with him. And I do believe everything happens for a reason, so what you’re saying about transmuting negative situations into learning experiences? Yep. I totally agree. Here’s to moving on and learning and growing–even from the craziest people thrown into our lives!
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Thanks, Kaylin! And agreed! Although the experience was far from pleasant, I really did learn a lot, so it is a-okay! Yay indeed for moving on, learning and growing! :]
Well, this is quite a bit different from your situation, but I had to learn to see an experience that I thought would lead in one direction (but didn’t) as some that I could still be thankful for–my grad school experience in New York. Did I get the wrong degree? yes, but did I love the experience? yes. Sometimes you have to learn to be thankful for the experience, if not the result. I hope that your ex got the help he so desperately needed.
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I’m glad you had a good experience at grad school despite getting the wrong degree! I think putting things into perspective makes a huge difference in any situation–if this one had never happened to me, who knows if I’d ever have had such a strong sense of knowing what I wanted! (I’d like to think I still would, but we’ll never know!)
I’m in a situation right now where I feel like I could grow to like someone just because they like me and i feel badly for not liking them back! I’m not going to give I to that though, because that would be meek of me.
I’ve never had a serious relationship before–thanks for all these tips. :)
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I don’t know if my advice on that works for everyone–I just know that the times I’ve thought that I could do that tend to end in disaster and end up a lot worse than if I’d just said no. :x It can be difficult!
I’ve only been in one serious relationship, but this one definitely wouldn’t qualify, har har. Make sure you really like the person and that they treat you well (and vice versa)! <3
I was in a relationship like that once in high school. Although he was all 17 year old talk and never acted on his threats, it was scary and creepy and I never forgot! Sometimes we do learn lessons the hard way!
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Agreed! It’s hard to tell sometimes whether or not they really mean it! I never forgot either, but whenever I see any inkling of a sign of that when/if I’m dating someone, I know I need to clear out instantly.
Ouch! I hope your ex got the help he needed.
Dating is really really really hard. I was epic-ly bad at choosing my dates and had the worst luck. It wasn’t until I met my hubby (and it took a long, long , long time and I made many “mistakes”) that I realized what a good relationship should be like. Respect is at the top of our list of things we have and treat like gold.
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I used to joke that I sure knew how to pick em’ (the first two guys I went out with/tried to go out with were monumentally terrible decisions). My first/only serious relationship taught me everything I did want in a relationship though. Even though ultimately, things didn’t work out, at least I know exactly what I want and find important in a relationship now! :] definitely agreed on the importance of respect!
I love this post. Thanks so much for sharing. Sorry that your first relationship was such a downer. But you’re right, it’s all a learning experience. I think each relationship or even dating experience I’ve had that didn’t work out has always just helped me clarify and refine my “wants” and “absolutely nots.”
In re: your questions: I am definitely not a person who can keep my problems inside. Not sure what it is, but I have a definite to talk about them in order to process what’s going on/mitigate the stress. Most recently learned from a bad dating experience is no tolerance for lies/I can usually trust my instincts about a person. On date two things didn’t add up, and by date six it was clear he wasn’t honest.
There are certainly some crazy/troubled/negative people out there, which is sad. But I suppose that’s another dating lesson–you can’t date someone out of their issues.
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Thanks so much, Caitlin! I definitely think each relationship and dating experience does a lot in refining/clarifying the “wants” and “oh-helllll-no’s.” :]
That’s something I really need to work on! I’m not that wonderful about talking about how I feel, but I do bring things up if there truly is something bothering me. I’m completely with you on honesty–I have an almost-zero tolerance policy for lying, and if I lose my trust in someone, it pretty much never comes back.
Very true! That’s something I learned from one of my first crushes, of sorts. You definitely cannot date someone out of their issues. Glad I learned that one early on! o_o
Wow – you have lots of wisdom for such a young gal! Blessings for you for moving forward and keeping the negativity out and love that you have learned from your mistakes! Don’t look back!
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Aww, thank you, Clare! <3 I'm definitely going to keep trying to kick the negativity out + learning from the past! :]
I’ve had one major long term relationship whose loss was devastating at the time but has since made me a stronger wiser person. I’ve learned way too much to type out here but finally feel ready to welcome that kind of love back into my life!
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I’m glad to hear that, Jill! <3 I've had one where the loss was really devastating to me too (definitely notttt the one I'm talking about in this post, haha), but I like to think I've learned a lot from it too! I think that's the best thing you can really do for yourself in situations like that!
Well, that guy was a “grade a” abusive jack-off. While I’ve never had to deal with this on an intimate partner level, I had a best friend who was damn near a sister controlling me throughout undergrad. She wanted to have a say in who I dated, when I spent time with them and she would have crying fits when I needed to study. After years of her threatening suicide, I walked out and prayed she wouldn’t do it. Where is she now? No clue and I’m happier for it.
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I’m glad you never had to deal with a significant other like this, but holy crud, that sounds like a toxic “friend.” I’m so glad she’s no longer in your life!
Glad you’re not in that relationship anymore. Can’t believe he defiled my knife by using it to cut himself when I wasn’t around. I was in disbelief when I heard. I’m glad you learned and grew a lot from it though.
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You and both, good sir! ;_; I’m sorry about the Fang of Baelin. :[ I was highly disturbed when he told me too. :[ But yay for learning experiences?
You have such a great prespective kn things and are truly wise beyond your years! I wish I would have the insight you did when I was dating. I just wasn’t as secure with who I was at the time to know that some of the relationships I was in weren’t good ones. Lack of drive hits home for me!
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Aww, thank you, Melanie! I’ve definitely had times in the past where I made really stupid decisions on dating certain people, but I like to think I’ve learned from my mistakes!
Dating can bring some tough situations. I’ve had my fair share, fortunately I haven’t had a “suicide” comment thrown at me, that would be crazy. I think you handled it better than I would have.
I once had a good friend of mine say, you marry who you date, so becareful who you date. Sounds simple and almost “duh”. But It’s so true, if we date just to date, what is the point. Or if we are dating someone we can’t really see ourselves with, who isn’t our type, what is the point. Getting to involved with someone who we don’t really like is what happens when people end up marrying the wrong person.
But I agree with you, if we take the negative experiences, and learn from them, the future will just get brighter and brighter, hopefully:)
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Agreed! I honestly couldn’t think of another way to [safely?] handle it, but I’m so glad it’s over!
That statement is rather true, which is probably why I’ve gotten so crazy-picky over the years, haha. I don’t want to date just to date–it’d be awesome to find someone super-amazing someday! And yay for brighter futures! :]
Farrah, you are so wise to have grown this much from your relationship experiences :) dating it kinda cool in the sense that we can learn what we DON’T want in a partner, right?
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Yep! Gotta look for those silver linings! :]
Farrah, I loved reading your insight on this! I think it is VERY important to know what you want/do not want and not be willing to settle! Druggies/alocholics/smokers are a HUGE no go for me, like so disgusting :) BUT I actually have been happily taken for almost six years :) (this is a BIG secret I keep on my blog :*)
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Agreed! :] And yes, completely agreed on the drugs/drinking/smoking. I definitely can’t stand it. :|
Your boyfriend and his family sound like super awesome people! :D!
It’s a really, really good thing to learn all of this very early on in life. It’s important to be able to know what you can’t/are not willing to live with, and stick to that. I mostly learned that by watching my high school friends with boyfriends and learning from a distance, haha!
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That’s definitely the smarter way to go (I definitely did learn a lot from watching one particular friend with his choices)!
I had been putting off sharing my experience with you for sometime because it doesn’t take quite a bit of energy to reflect on it all, heh.
When I was younger, I definitely reserved feelings to emotions. High school and beginning of college especially. I wanted to make everyone happy. Even when I gave out advice, it was to ensure that they felt good even if the advice was going against whatever they had originally wanted. Although when I dated my ex, things started to change for me.
I wanted her happy, even at the cost of me lying to keep it that way. I held in truths that would sour an otherwise happy relationship. I’m not talking about talking with other girls behind her back or anything, but rather I kept in family issues or things going on outside of the relationship that affected me. The biggest one was my employment (or lack-thereof) after college. I was depressed. The jobs I ended up getting never helped. I had no drive and didn’t know where I wanted to be. But I couldn’t tell my ex that. I couldn’t see her struggle with the thought that I hated myself. But it made things worse. She began to question whether or not I had been serious about the relationship at that point. I stopped putting her before everything else because I felt overwhelmed by it all. I started brushing her off and trying to make myself happy through things I wanted to do. So when it ended, I was naive enough to think a few things here or there would try to rekindle it. It didn’t, and it certainly became a lost cause.
What I’ve since taken away is being more open about most things. Granted, some things (family or otherwise) shouldn’t be out in the open unless there’s something that can be done. Other times it is just for venting. But with being more open means having to deal with impending compromises or different results. I’ll say what’s on my mind for ideas, activities, or opinions. But after that, I’ll deal with the responses as it comes, rather than settle for my own answers or outcomes. I’ve also asked for help in many more ways than before. Especially if I’m having an issue with being depressed. The responses have been far more helpful and it gives me a guide on what to expect in the future of another relationship.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I think that being on the feels-trip took a lot out of me than expected, so it’s definitely time for a nap.
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That must have been a really difficult experience to go through. :[ I’m definitely really really reserved when it comes to sharing my emotions, and I have a long history of always wanting what’s best for other people before I bothered with what I wanted, although my rationale both then and now (I’ve definitely since gotten better about being more “selfish,” but still) was that it makes me really happy when the people I love are happy.
That’s good that you took away a lot of life lessons from the experience though! There are a lot of things I still don’t share either, because I don’t see a point to it (really just the stuff that’d only serve to worry other people that no one really has any control over). Asking for help used to be an issue for me too, but I’m better about asking for it now if I really do need it!